How My Kid Went From Super Picky Eater to Foodie: My 5 Step Plan

 Well, friends, it is finally time. Today, we are kicking off a three-part picky eating series, and I am so excited. It is long overdue. Many of you have found your way to myself or Your Kids Table, which is our long-running, since 2012, blog and website, because of picky eating. And so if this is the first time you are hearing about it from me, Alisha Grogan, a pediatric OT and a mom, well, I’m so glad that you’re here for this conversation.

For those of you that have been around for a while, you know that this has been a major part of the resources and the support that I really try to provide, both in our blog, in our printables, in our free workshop, in our course, Mealtime Works, and we have not yet talked about it here specifically on the Connected and Capable podcast. Well, at the time of this filming, we are heading out into summer. This is the beginning of June. I think that it’s such a good time to be working on picky eating, just as your schedule maybe starts to slow down a bit. 

Your kids might be home a little bit more. It’s a good season to start thinking about making small changes. And before we even get into this first episode, which is all about how my kid went from a super picky eater that was literally gagging at all foods, pretty much eating nothing, to being the foodie that he is today. It was not an overnight process, but it very much is possible, and I’ve seen this not just in my own kid, but in the kids that I work with here in the Pittsburgh area, as well as families around the world that have been part of our Mealtime Works program. 

So, I do see this over and over again. My kid is not an anomaly. It is possible. But I’m gonna tell you right now, I’m gonna start this episode right now with one of the most important things for you to keep in mind if you are struggling right now with a kid that is a picky eater, you’re a therapist that is supporting families that are struggling with picky eaters, is that it does not have to be a massive, overwhelming process to get your kid out of this. 

I’m not saying that you’re not gonna have the feelings and the frustration, but what I am saying is that no matter how busy you are or how little bandwidth that you feel like you have, there are key intentional strategies that you can use right in the midst of your daily life that will help put them on the path to learning to love and enjoy foods. So, I’m so excited that you’re here for this conversation. 

As, as we get into it, I do wanna talk about- How in the heck I got to this point to being a, this kind of pi- picky eating expert. See, I did not learn much about supporting kids eating in my schooling as an OT. That is pretty typical. This is an advanced, specialized topic. I think we covered it for a few minutes one day in my advanced pediatric coursework. And so I didn’t have a really good understanding of what it was. 

I didn’t use it at all in my first job. And in my second job, I was helping kids eat that had cerebral palsy, that had, major physical disabilities that were struggling to eat from a physical standpoint. They needed help bringing the spoon to their mouth. They needed help swallowing. And so my feeding journey began there, which is what we often refer to it as in the therapy world. We call it feeding therapy. But it really changed and took on a whole new level when I started also working in early intervention. So early intervention is from zero to five. I was in a specific zero to three program here in Pennsylvania, and I would go into families’ homes and help them with anything that was related to a kid’s fine motor development, that was related to their sensory needs, and their eating.

Now, to be clear, speech therapist will also support feeding challenges, and picky eating falls under that umbrella. Well, pretty soon after starting my work as an early intervention therapist, I had a kiddo that had a diagnosis of failure to thrive on my caseload, and Was eating a handful of foods, was super tiny and petite, was the sweetest little girl. She had no other diagnoses or disabilities. She was two years old. And I used all of the kinda common sense approaches I could, some quick Google searches, which quite honestly didn’t bring up much, and ultimately, I felt like I didn’t really end up helping her in the end, despite my best efforts. 

I, was only working with her for a few months because kiddos aged out at age three, and so I wasn’t really sure what I was supposed to be doing. And boy, I did not like that feeling. I did not like that feeling, and so I started to learn pretty aggressively. I took a lot of continuing education classes. I started having conversations with mentors. I was reading books. I was reading research articles. 

Now, keep in mind, at this point, I have no kids of my own. Well, of course, on my caseload, more and more kids keep coming onto my caseload that are struggling with picky eating. Now, I did mention failure to thrive with that first little girl in passing there, and that is a diagnosis that they have actually started to move away from, which is a good thing because it just sounds so negative. And this little girl that I was working with, she was thriving. She was not failing to thrive. She was just struggling with eating. 

Looking back now, I am sure that there were many layers going on with why she wasn’t eating that, quite honestly, I had no idea about at the time. We’re gonna talk about that in the next episode because it’s so foundational, and as an OT, it is the first thing that I am thinking about when I start watching a kid that eat and the limited foods that they aren’t eating But back to my journey, and, you know, as I’m now becoming a more seasoned therapist and starting to have more of these kids on my caseload, I am reading and trying all different kinds of approaches. 

I truly am testing what works, what doesn’t work, where a family is seeing success. Meanwhile, we’re starting to see traction with some of these kiddos, and I’m learning a lot in real time. Early intervention becomes my full-time gig. I’m seeing over 20 kids a week driving all around Pittsburgh to different families’ homes, and I’m in their living rooms. I’m sitting around their kitchen tables, and we are able to get to a point where I start to see a repeatable plan. 

I start to see the vast majority of kids that I’m seeing making significant progress, and I have some kids that are making amazing progress. Like, I need to write a case study about these kids. It’s unbelievable the progress that we’re seeing because I’m starting to follow this repeatable plan. I have figured out what doesn’t really work, what are old school strategies that aren’t really backed by research that are maybe still being used, and what is really effective for a wide range of kids, but that we are still customizing based on why these kids are struggling. So all of this is happening. I give birth to my first son, and his eating is wonderful. I do all of the things that I teach parents to do. And on his first birthday, I still remember him eating chicken and diced up cherry tomatoes and enjoying his birthday cake and just thinking, “Wow. Look, we did all of the things right, and he is just this incredible eater.” 

And then I had my second son, and I started to do all of the same things, and he didn’t eat, and he gagged and shuddered when food was put in front of him. This got significantly worse after he had a violent illness that caused him to throw up, projectile vomiting, the whole thing. His eating was significantly impacted after that. So as he’s approaching his first birthday, he is seem- just seems totally content with living a life of nursing. And of course, as an OT, I’m s- you know, I’m in the field, I’m helping families with this, and now my own kid is in front of me. 

I know that he would’ve qualified for OT, and to be quite honest with you, there was this kind of shocking moment of my two worlds colliding. Although, again, I brought my therapy into my kids’ lives and was doing so many therapeutic activities with them, there was a significant shift that I had to make to be able to help my child in a therapeutic way because there was a challenge. And the truth is, I could see very big red flags for some major underlying causes. 

At the top of the list was that he was having some sensory processing challenges. This was so clear to me because he was gagging as soon as he looked at a food, as soon as he tasted a food. He wanted nothing to do with it. And at nine and 10 months old, those are very big red flags. And unfortunately, I think sometimes parents voice these concerns when a child is really young, and we’ll talk about this a little bit later, not all kids have their picky eating start at such an early age, although many do. 

There are often signs. We don’t know what to do, so we think, “All right, well, I’ll just give them the bottle longer. I’ll just nurse them longer. I will just keep giving them baby food if that’s, if that’s what they want. If they just wanna eat the little puffs, I’ll just give those to them.” I asked the doctor about it, and guess what the doctor said? I bet you can guess if you have a picky eater. “Don’t worry, they’ll grow out of it.” Well, I knew that that was dangerous. 

I knew that I needed to make sure that this kiddo was not just going to grow out of it and hope that that was going to be the case. I needed to be proactive because I know that there is a window of development where kids will naturally start to be interested in eating, and if they don’t, it’s a red flag that something else is going on. And if I don’t address that, this could snowball into something much bigger than we ever realized  And so that really began a moment of putting us Putting us on a very clear journey. 

And I really, as a mom, had to wrestle with that a lot. I had two very young kids. I was exhausted, and I knew, I knew what it meant. I knew that this wasn’t going to be a quick fix. And even for myself, at that time, I had to stop and get organized. See, I was always the therapist showing up week after week and giving the family that next little tip, that next strategy, working, trying, testing different things. But now, I needed to be that for myself, and that was hard. So anybody listening, I know we’ve had many therapists take our programs over the years that have kiddos, and they’re like, “Look, I just can’t do both.” And I applaud you for doing that. 

I was a little bit stubborn because I was like, “Bl- this is my specialty. This is what I do all day long. I need to j- I need to, to figure this out.” And so it took some support from my husband, it took some tears, many times sitting in the hallway, on the couch at night, and me just sitting down and organizing myself so that I knew what those next steps were. 

Those steps really continued to evolve, and they, they shaped in a little bit of an unexpected way. When I was doing this in real life, instead of just showing up as the therapist once a week, I now had a first-hand experience of what it meant to live this, serving your kid three meals a day and an additional one or two snacks. I mean, we are feeding our kids a lot. They need to eat many times during the day. And so this challenge of having a kid that’s not eating, it’s hard because it really grinds you down. 

It feels like it just won’t quit because you get through one meal, and you get a couple of hours, and then it’s already time for that next meal where you might feel disappointed, where you might feel frustrated. And I certainly was feeling those things. Even though I understood it, I had all of these mom insti- instincts just firing, saying, “My kid needs to eat. He needs to grow. He needs this for his brain. He needs this for his body to get strong. I want him to be eating.” We have this drive inside of us as parents. 

We just feel it at such a cellular level that we want our kids to be eating well. There is nothing wrong with that. But it is so important that we understand that we are bringing that to the table when our kids are not eating. So we often are showing up with a lot of stress, and that is, that is my hope in this series here, is that you are seeing exactly what you can do the next step for your child. It doesn’t mean that you have to have every single thing figured out. It means what is the next step for my kiddo that is putting us on this path to helping them learn to enjoy and feel comfortable around foods. 

If you are listening to this episode and you have a kiddo that is under five, I wanna applaud you because you have likely been told, “Don’t worry, wait it out.” But your instinct, your gut, is telling you, “Mm, something else might be going on.” And that was certainly the case for my kiddo, and of course, I never brought it up with the doctor because I fully understood what was going on and what needed to happen. But that is not the case for the vast majority of parents out there. 

Unfortunately, so many parents are just not told what to do or how to help their kids start to eat. And the truth is, when kids are refusing food, when they get a very limited diet, and they only have a few foods that they’re willing to eat, this is an extreme picky eating situation. Some kids may have a diagnosis of ARFID, which is Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder. Some kids may have a diagnosis of PFD, which, which is Pediatric Feeding Disorder Those are not usually given at one or two years old. 

Those usually come in the, in the coming years. Sometimes they are given at two years old if a kid is, is so limited. But what I want you to know is that if your kid is only eating a handful of foods, eating is uncomfortable for them, and it has likely been processed in their own brain as a n- as a negative experience as, at best. For many kids, it is seen as threatening because it is painful, it is causing some type of digestion issue that is hidden or unknown. There are sensory issues, and their brain is wired in a way that it’s telling them that this thing is, like, so disgusting they might as well be eating a plate of cockroaches. That’s what their brain is telling them. 

Even though this looks like a food that is totally normal to you, your child’s brain is receiving it potentially quite differently if there are these, these sensory components. And there is almost always some sensory components going on with food because eating is this really sensory rich experience. Now, I’m giving lots of examples about where kids are on, like, their picky eating. So, I want to be clear here that picky eating is really way more like a spectrum, and how one parent defines picky eating is surely different than the next. 

Some folks will call their kids a picky eater if they’re just eating a handful of foods. Others are just calling their kid a picky eater if they don’t like broccoli or don’t eat every single thing that they put down in front of them. And so it is a wide spectrum, and we do have average picky eating, which is common for most toddlers and preschoolers to go through, although it’s not usually… Well, it’s never so limited that they are only eating a handful of foods, that they are gagging and that they are throwing up, or that they are Having a meltdown because you’ve put something new or different in front of them. 

It’s not average picky eating when you can only prepare a certain food a certain way, or your kid will only eat McDonald’s chicken nuggets, and they are relying on that. That is not average picky eating, but yet we kind of put it all under this umbrella term, and that is where some of these diagnoses come in. And certainly for my son, he was not in the average range of picky eating. He wasn’t old enough to be in that average range yet, and he was having major signs that he was really struggling with food. 

And so we make our plan, and we start to put it into place, and this was really a five-step plan I’m gonna walk us through here. But what I want you to know is, this is not a quick fix. This, unfortunately, is not, hey, just serve your kid this recipe, and they’re suddenly gonna start eating. Now, are recipes helpful? Oh my gosh, yes, and we have a ton of them on yourkidstable.com, just some of my favorite picky eating recipes. Things that picky eaters are more likely to eat because we’re leveraging a certain type of texture or a certain type of taste. 

We’re having it presented in a way that is gonna feel safer and more comfortable generally to kids that are picky eaters. That does not mean that this is a magic food that your kid is gonna eat, but they can be kind of magical, especially if you’re working these five steps. But it’s important to know that it’s not a quick fix. You know, one of the most popular searches around picky eating is, “How do you fix it? How do you fix pixi- picky eating?” And really, this is a journey. It is a long-term process, but, but, but, but there are quick wins, and there are ways to see progress, and I think if there’s one main thing that you take away from this episode, I hope it’s that you look for the next small win for your kid, and I’m gonna talk about what that is and how that played out for my son because it is not just about, oh my gosh, my kid is only eating three foods, or my kid is just pretty picky. 

Like, they only want chicken fingers, fries, and, and pizza, and they won’t eat any fruits or vegetables, so maybe they’re in the middle of that picky eating range. And it’s like we just want them to eat the vegetables, we just want them to eat the fruit, we want them to have a varied, amount of foods. We want to be able to serve whatever we’re eating for dinner and have our kids eat it. All of those things are appropriate and good goals. 

However, we need to look for the smaller wins and not expect our kids to go from struggling with eating foods to being this really varied eater that eats tons of fruits and vegetables and healthy protein sources. It’s about the next step. And so for my son, as he is beginning to eat, and I am putting lots of foods down in front of him, his older toddler brother is eating a lot of the similar types of foods. I am putting those on his plate, and I’m watching for his reaction. 

Okay? So this is really how it begins. And in observing, what does he have the least reaction with? What does he tend to eat? He had a couple of baby foods that he liked. Wasn’t super consistent with them, but they tended to be foods that were bolder flavors. Now, some picky eaters really like bland foods. In my son’s case, it was like, wow, he really liked that broth mixed in of my mom’s lamb stew that she had made, and he ate it. It was one of the things that he ate the best. 

Now, that was still a baby food, but I had him eating something. It was a very big clue to me that he liked these bold flavors Another sign of sensory stuff going on. And so, I also noticed that he would eat the little puffs that I put on his plate. Those are bas- basically no calories, but they’re perfect for helping kids start to learn to chew and to move things around in their mouth. So while it’s great that he’s eating those, I know nutritionally they’re not doing very much for him. 

It was my personal goal to have him weaned by the time he… Like, around one years old, like, like soon after his first birthday, you know, maybe 13 or 14 months being totally weaned. I’m looking at this and I’m thinking, “There’s no way we’re, we’re headed there yet.” So we really started to focus on what else he might eat based on what he already was eating. And so I took a survey of all of the fruit that we had in our house, and I decided to try watermelon because it was crunchy. Although it didn’t have a bold flavor, I thought, “This is really crunchy.” And it’s also such a good food for babies and toddlers. 

It melts down pretty easily, but still has a little bit of that crunch, and he started to eat watermelon. And then we started to make our way on to other foods. It took a few months following our five-step plan, which I’m gonna get to, and the five things that we really focused on. But soon he began to eat really crispy, very thin Dino Nuggets. It was a very specific brand. It was Yummy brand. I’m not in any kind of partnership with them whatsoever. They can kind of be hard to find, depending. They were widely available when my son was this age. In fact, they were always in stock at Sam’s Club, and so they were just… They’re super thin, which I knew would mean low texture. It meant a lot of breading, which I knew he was kind of starting to like. 

He had branched off onto several other types of kind of crunchy toddler foods, all pretty much no calorie. You know, like the little cheese puffs, and the yogurt melts, and all of those types of things. We also got him onto yogurt because he really loved that tanginess of the yogurt, and so he now had a few foods that he was willing to eat. And by his first birthday, he was eating some cake, and by the time he was 13 months old, he was able to eat a different meal and have a complete meal for all three meals of the day. So this was in a period of about two to three months with following these, these key steps to help him get on the right path. 

Now, our journey continued long after that, and I’m gonna talk about that some more, but I wanna walk through what these five steps are. I am gonna tell you that these steps are kinda high level, quick flybys. My hope is that you see hope in this story of my son going from eating almost nothing to having major sensory stuff underlying the surface. And for those of you that have listened to some of our other episodes on ADHD, this is my son that ultimately ended up being diagnosed with ADHD when he was, you know, much older. 

And so it’s, it’s interesting to look back now and to see how he has had these challenges throughout his life in different areas that all kind of sync together and are, or linked together in some way. But as we, as we sat down to create our plan, at the very top of my list, and what I teach to my students inside of Mealtime Works and what we teach inside of our free workshop, which I hope that you’ll take. It’s a free workshop with the three keys I use to turn around picky eating. We go into more detail there. 

The first step is to not pressure our kids to eat. Now, that might sound really simple. Maybe it’s something you’re already aware of. I find parents are kind of 50/50 on that. You may have heard that it’s better to not pressure your kid to eat And you may have never heard of that, and it might sound kind of wild to even consider that. And what does, what does it really mean to even pressure our kids to eat? 

So that does mean begging our kids, bribing our kids, rewarding our kids, trying to talk them into it, getting into power struggles with them. All of that really creates a negative experience. And here’s the thing, when kids are not eating, especially when they’re on that more severe end of the range, there is anxiety and stress with meals, right? So their, their fight or flight center in their brain might be lighting up, and they might not be fully in fight or flight, but if you’re seeing tears, they’re getting combative. 

If you’re seeing meltdowns, they are definitely in fight or flight. And so when we put pressure on them to eat, it’s only increasing that. Our goal is to have this be a child-directed and kind of self-led experience into them feeling comfortable and safe with foods. That’s, that’s the ultimate goal, is that we want them to feel safe with foods. Again, for the reasons that we’re gonna talk about in upcoming episodes, we want to make sure that we’re addressing those underlying causes, because right now, eating likely doesn’t feel safe. And if we come at it with a lot of pressure, they’re gonna recoil and not eat. Okay? So making sure that we’re not pressuring is step number one. Again, a lot more, lot, lot more we could say about that. 

But let’s get on to number two, which is setting up a routine. This is so important, and if you’re listening right now and you’re like, “We don’t really have a routine around meals. I’m not really a routine person,” I totally get that, and I don’t want this to be anything that causes you panic. And again, I teach these five steps, and I use these five steps, and they’re steps. It’s not a, “I need to do all of this at once.” They are a step. 

So the first step is really starting off that no pressure, and there’s a lot of things that we might need to change our mindset on, or the way that we are thinking about food But the second one may or may not be challenging for you as well, depending on how much you lean into routine. But routine is really important because we’re unable to help kiddos get new foods in front of them if we don’t really have a routine. And so routine is basically sitting at the table, spacing meals apart pretty much every, like, two to three hours. Maybe sometimes kids, especially if they’re a little bit older, can do four hours apart. This kind of varies between kids. So three hours is kind of a baseline, could be a little sooner, could be a little longer. 

But basically, from the start of one meal to the start of the next, that there becomes this rhythm and cadence in their day and in yours about when to eat. This helps with their appetite development and them starting to feel hungry, which a lot of picky eaters don’t. This also helps them see you eating, and it creates a social experience for them. Now, this might not be possible at every single meal, but we wanna be taking steps towards it. This is important. This is worth every bit of your effort, and it’s okay to take small steps in getting there. 

The third step is addressing the underlying cause. I’ve already brought this up so many times, and in the next episode in this series, we’re gonna get into this in more details. But those underlying causes could be difficulty chewing or swallowing. It could be underlying physical symptoms. Your kid could have reflux or severe constipation, or there could be physical abnormalities in their mouth or throat. That’s rarer for sure, but it is sometimes a factor. 

The most common underlying cause that I see are sensory processing challenges. Lots of kids have sensory processing challenges, but some kids have them just related to eating And then we also see an, a component of anxiety play a role here in food, and addressing that as an underlying cause as well. And there are a couple more we’ll get to in the next episode. 

But what I want you to take from this third step right now is, you know, after we start to create a no pressure and just this positive eating envi- environment around food, even if they’re not eating anything else yet, that’s okay. The first step is just, like, let’s neutralize this, this mealtime that feels really stressful and overwhelming. The next step is let’s, let’s start to build towards a routine, whatever those small steps start to take. 

Then when we have that foundation, those two foundation pieces, then we get into, all right, what is really going on here? And then depending on what those, that, the, your kiddo’s underlying causes are, and there are sometimes multiple, there are different strategies for how to address that. 

And then our fourth step is expanding variety. Okay, that’s step number four, and I think that’s where everybody wants to start, but kids are just not ready yet. So step number four is expanding variety, and that’s what we did with my kid. I talked about some of those examples. But guys, I was really leaning hard into steps one, two, and three before we started to bridge to new foods, before we started to address the sensory component. 

We were using daily sensory bins. I was using specific textures like bird seed and rice that were gonna… that were going to help him Tolerate textures better, and so we were playing in those a lot. We were using some advanced techniques like using a nuk brush in his mouth to help desensitize kind of this whole mouth area, um, that he had so much sensitivity around. And that, that definitely takes guidance either from a feeding therapist, like an OT or speech therapist, or if you’re in a program like Mealtime Works, where we’re really working on when to use that, how to use that. But it was a very important component because sensory was one of his underlying causes. 

And then our fifth step are the extras, and those are doing things like menu planning to strategize new foods, looking up some key recipes. Of course, we have lots of ideas for those. Those are optional. It’s kinda like the icing on the cake. And unfortunately, those are the things that I think you most likely hear about. “Well, try some menu planning.” That feels like a nightmare when your kid isn’t even eating anything. 

What is there to menu plan when your kid is eating two foods? So those come later, they come extra. Those are, you know, using presentation and, different tricks to leverage helping your kid feel more comfortable with food. But again, that is the icing on the cake. So we’re looking at these five steps. These are the five steps that I used with my son consistently over and over and over again for those first few months that got him to the point where he was able to eat regular meals. Now, still super picky. Like, if we were going to a graduation party or we were gonna be, you know, at an amusement park, I had to really think about what is he gonna have to eat, you know. 

We could not just go up at that point to a buffet and just grab some food for him. Now, would we try? Of course. But I had to know that he was likely not gonna eat those things. And so our journey continued over the next several months, another three, four, five, six months, till he was able to start eating more consistently in wider places. But really, that journey just continued to unfold over the next several years and beyond. 

It took several years before he was comfortably and willingly just grabbing a piece of grilled chicken and eating that. But here’s the really cool thing that happened I am now 14, 13 to 14 years on the other side of that point, and I’ve had this really awesome opportunity to kind of see this full arc of what happens with meeting his sensory needs, with watching some of the ebbs and flows of this picky eating. Progress isn’t often like a straight word up arrow. It’s like a kind of crazy wavy line that’s going backwards and then forwards and loops around. That was definitely our experience, too. 

But these five steps were our guidepost. There were times when we got off track. I got pregnant with my third kid. I had horrible morning sickness. My house was in shambles. My husband was doing everything he could to just take care of me and our two young children. I was pretty much, like, out of service for several months, and so a lot of our things fell apart And yet, we came back to these five steps. It did not take as long, and we were able to get back on track again. 

I am so, I am so happy to say that this kiddo that was once a super picky eater, that had so much anxiety and fear and just dread around new foods, is now quite the foodie. He loves all kinds of meat. He makes his own smoothies multiple times a day. He will eat salad. He ate a whole plate of salad last night with radishes and cucumbers and shredded carrots and some seeds inside. And, you know, it was like a spring mix salad, and he’s been eating those types of food for years. 

Now, does that mean that he eats every single food under the sun? No, of course not. He still is not a huge fan of Brussels sprouts. He is not a huge fan of, I think, mostly, some, some harder vegetables. You know, broccoli he can eat, especially if it’s mixed in something, but not his favorite go-to. But he has other vegetables that he does eat. He eats lots of different types of meat. And I really, really do believe that we would be in a very different place today with his relationship with food, which he so enjoys. He just got his first job, and he is working in a restaurant, and he absolutely loves it. 

Like, he actually sought out that opportunity because he loves food so much. For so many of our super picky eaters Food is the enemy, and that does not go away for all kids. Some kids get over it a little bit. They don’t get over it a lot. So I just… Wherever you are at with your kiddo, if you have a young kiddo, if you have an older kiddo and you think it might be too late, it’s not. It is not too late. These five steps apply to every kiddo in every situation. They’re what our Mealtime Works Picky Eating Program is been about with thousands of families that have taken it around the world. 

They are effective, they are proven. But I know we just scratched the surface here today, and so I want you to keep learning. I want you to dive deeper. I want you to grab a seat in our free workshop. It’s at yourkidstable.com/free, F-R-E-E. That link is also in the show notes. It is just one of our best free resources, and it’s such an incredible way to start off this summer. So if you are inspired, if you wanna keep learning, we’re gonna talk about several of these steps in that workshop. Please make sure that you go grab a seat. And thanks for being here. We’re gonna keep this conversation going. In, the next episode, we’re gonna dig deeper into those reasons that kids don’t eat. This is so important. Don’t miss it. I’ll see you there